All Change

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oldie
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Re: All Change

Postby oldie » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:21 pm

If the title is no longer Greater Manchester, then what it is it ?
I have just been in contact with TfGM.
Yes the second letter should be in lower case.
It stands for Transport for Greater Manchester.
Nobody told them.

AndrewJ
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Re: All Change

Postby AndrewJ » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:52 am

ma-ogy wrote:
tarboat wrote:

It will make a hell of a difference in terms of services received and the costs thereof. Stockport Council is much worse than Cheshire East and that is saying something.


And just too add Stockports Council Tax is higher than C.E.C .


Well, as I said this is rather hypothetical as there is no reason why an MP can't have a constituency that overlaps more than one council, and no reason why Poynton would move council as ward and constituency boundaries aren't linked any more.

The council tax is approx £2 a week higher for Band D in Stockport, agreed. However Cheshire East borrowed substantially more from their reserves than Stockport did last year, to allow them to keep their tax lower, plus the town council also borrowed a lot compared to its expenditure. In reality we don't really know how the councils perform in relation to each other, as the Audit Commission was abolished a few years ago as part of the austerity programme, with nothing to replace it. Cheshire East has not been around long enough to have been assessed by it.

vmeldrew
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Re: All Change

Postby vmeldrew » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:33 am

This is about the Parliamentary boundary; not the county boundary. For the moment, it does not affect any of the day to day services provided by Cheshire East. However, the fundamental problem is, as I see it, that whenever Poynton is under threat from the encroachment of Greater Manchester; nibbling away at green belt, more Stockport housing or whatever big issues crop up in the future, we will have a GM based MP representing their side, and not an MP linked to Macclesfield and representing Poynton's side of the county boundary. So we are at the risk of not having parliamentary representation to fight key issues that affect Poynton in Cheshire.

As I see it, Poynton is a distinct township, separate from Greater Manchester with a desire to preserve it's identity, and not wishing to be subsumed into the urban sprawl of Greater Manchester. This is therefore an important issue.

AnotherWhingerLike_U
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Re: All Change

Postby AnotherWhingerLike_U » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:07 am

vmeldrew wrote:...As I see it, Poynton is a distinct township, separate from Greater Manchester with a desire to preserve it's identity, and not wishing to be subsumed into the urban sprawl of Greater Manchester. This is therefore an important issue.

Is Poynton’s identity being preserved? :?: Prestbury’s maybe.
Considering all the supermarkets and food chains moving in. :? Then when the countryside has been carved up by the link and relief roads there will be plenty of isolated plots begging for housing and retail.

Nice thought, but what’s the benefit of being in Cheshire, if Poynton is so closely surrounded by urban sprawl and blending in with it?

Hockley village
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Re: All Change

Postby Hockley village » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:23 pm

And then we can enjoy cheaper public transport? (assuming you want to head north!!)

nedsram
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Re: All Change

Postby nedsram » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:22 pm

In the context of CAMRA branches, we are in the High Peak branch area. Hazel Grove and points north are in the Stockport branch area, and Adlington and points south are in the Macclesfield branch area. Now there's an idea. :mrgreen:

brutus
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Re: All Change

Postby brutus » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:33 pm

The new boundary changes appear to show us still in Macclesfield. Is this the final decision ?

nedsram
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Re: All Change

Postby nedsram » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:31 pm

Yes you are right. Well spotted. These changes were made earlier this month. The map is here. While we will be remaining in Macclesfield, they are now proposing a Hazel Grove and Wilmslow constituency, and Knutsford will be lumped together with Altrincham. So they've just moved all the objections a few miles further west.

SK121NZ
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Re: All Change

Postby SK121NZ » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:32 am

brutus wrote:The new boundary changes appear to show us still in Macclesfield. Is this the final decision ?


nedsram wrote: ….. While we will be remaining in Macclesfield …..


The Boundary Commission only have the power to Propose a Recommendation ..... which has to be considered and voted on in Parliament in 2018 in time for the next General Election !!

Boundary Commission wrote: …..
Our proposals for North West

Your proposed constituency is Macclesfield

Our Revised proposals, published on 17 October 2017, set out the new constituencies in the North West. You have until 11 December 2017 to tell us what you think of them.

In formulating our revised proposals we have reflected on all the written comments received during the previous two consultations and all the oral comments made at the public hearings.
You can comment on our revised proposals using the 'Make a comment' button. …..


visit: https://www.bce2018.org.uk/node/6487?postcode=SK121NZ to leave your comments

Details of the selected Existing area :-
Name................. Electorate
Macclesfield Co Const 69,582

Exist_Macclesfield.jpg


Boundary Commission - Proposed area (2018) :-
Name...........Electorate
Macclesfield 72,751

Macclesfield_2018.jpg



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