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Rostervor
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All Change

Postby Rostervor » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:35 am

Boundary Commission report of today wrote: Firstly, five wards of the southern part of the Borough of Stockport,
including the towns of Bramhall and Hazel Grove, would be included in a constituency with three wards from the
northern part of the existing Macclesfield constituency, including the towns of Poynton and Disley, and two wards from
the existing Tatton constituency, including the town of Handforth. We propose that this constituency be called Bramhall and
Poynton. We considered that these areas might not be dissimilar in composition and outlook and could co‑exist in a single
constituency.

tarboat
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Re: All Change

Postby tarboat » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:32 am

Next step will be to suggest that these places currently in Cheshire are all really part of Greater Manchester. No real surprises there.

AndrewJ
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Re: All Change

Postby AndrewJ » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:56 am

Sounds similar to the last attempt to change boundaries a few years ago, where we would have had a 'Hazel Grove and Poynton' constituency. Seems sensible, Poynton doesn't really have much reason to be in a constituency with Macclesfield anymore (if it ever did!). Geographically, economically and demographically it is much closer to suburban Bramhall and Hazel Grove than to rural Cheshire East.

I don't think that council representation is dictated by parliamentary wards, but it doesn't really matter which is Poynton's council as you don't really get a say in what services are provided anymore, it is all dictated by central government. You'll still be able to put Cheshire on your address if a ceremonial county is really important to you. :-)

tarboat
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Re: All Change

Postby tarboat » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:21 am

I don't think that council representation is dictated by parliamentary wards, but it doesn't really matter which is Poynton's council as you don't really get a say in what services are provided anymore, it is all dictated by central government. You'll still be able to put Cheshire on your address if a ceremonial county is really important to you. :-)


It will make a hell of a difference in terms of services received and the costs thereof. Stockport Council is much worse than Cheshire East and that is saying something.

PoyntonMonkey
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Re: All Change

Postby PoyntonMonkey » Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:02 pm

I think everyone is getting a little carried away...

ma-ogy
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Re: All Change

Postby ma-ogy » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:44 am

tarboat wrote:
I don't think that council representation is dictated by parliamentary wards, but it doesn't really matter which is Poynton's council as you don't really get a say in what services are provided anymore, it is all dictated by central government. You'll still be able to put Cheshire on your address if a ceremonial county is really important to you. :-)


It will make a hell of a difference in terms of services received and the costs thereof. Stockport Council is much worse than Cheshire East and that is saying something.
And just too add Stockports Council Tax is higher than C.E.C .

AnotherWhingerLike_U
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Re: All Change

Postby AnotherWhingerLike_U » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:52 pm

Is there really any reason why different areas in one constituency could not be funded by different borough councils? It may help bordering councils work better together.

SK121NZ
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Re: All Change

Postby SK121NZ » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:44 pm

The last time that the Boundary Commission put forward their recommendations (to be debated by Parliament), was in 2011 (during the Coalition Govt).

At that time they were recommending that Poynton be taken out of the Macclesfield constituency, and be put into a new constituency comprising of Hazel Grove, Bredbury, Romiley and Marple to be called Hazel Grove and Poynton Constuency; this was discussed here:

http://www.poyntonforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=930 and here:

http://www.poyntonforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=911

A map of such a new constituency, had it gone through, would have looked like this:

Hazel Grove and Poynton.jpg


That recommendation was 'kicked into the long grass', and the BC were told to come back in 2016 with new recommendations to be implemented in 2018.

The latest recommendations seek to again take Poynton out of the Macclesfield constituency, but NOW seeks to put it into a new constituency comprising Disley, Handforth, Dean Row, Bramhall , Woodford, Hazel Grove, Offerton and Stepping Hill to be called Bramhall and Poynton Constituency - see here:

https://www.bce2018.org.uk/node/6487?postcode=SK121NZ

A map of such a new constituency, (should it go through this time !!) would look like this:

Bramhall and Poynton 2.jpg


By the way, if you check the following website, you will notice that David Rutley voted on the 2010, 2011 and 2013 recommendations 'with the government';

which had the vote gone their way, would mean that we in Poynton would be part of 'Hazel Grove and Poynton' by now !!!

.... so the real question might be 'would David Rutley prefer to gain parts of Tatton rather than keeping Poynton, this time around ???'

http://www.wilmslow.co.uk/news/article/ ... boundaries

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24820 ... olicy=1113

David Rutley MP, Macclesfield - TheyWorkForYou
http://www.theyworkforyou.com

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AnotherWhingerLike_U
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Re: All Change

Postby AnotherWhingerLike_U » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:57 am

The whole of Cheshire east is all Conservative MP’s. How wonderfully cosy and convenient. :roll: :evil: A couple of the MP’s have to deal with both Cheshire east & Cheshire west (that has 2 Labour MP’s).

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Re: All Change

Postby a523-junction » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:43 pm

tarboat wrote:Next step will be to suggest that these places currently in Cheshire are all really part of Greater Manchester. No real surprises there.



Greater Manchester was abolished on the 31st March 1986 , its about time people stopped using that name for areas that used to be covered by it !

Anyone remember what the original name for greater manchester was ? - SELNEC , which stood for south east lancashire north east cheshire , but it wasn't greatly liked so they called this artificial area greater manchester for a while


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