New rail timetable from May 20th

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turdo170
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New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby turdo170 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:00 pm

The May timetable isn't happening until December now, ours is one of the few electric services not to go ahead in any form until December 2018.

The sunday service is staying 5 trains each way as it stands for reasons unknown.


We currently have negative changes in the system- 0751 retimed to 0757 and Starts at Macclesfield (through to Blackpool in December), 0815 will no longer run, 1330 misses out Stockport and 1430 calls additionally at Heaton Chapel.

Although still time for tweeks.

The main issue is fitting everything round Airport trains.
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AndrewJ
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Re: New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby AndrewJ » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:52 pm

This was mentioned briefly by turdo [xxx in the new bus timetable thread xxx ], but I thought the fact that there is also a new train timetable from May 20th was worth a new thread too. It has been provisionally published and you can now buy tickets for the services so I presume it won't change much. The Sunday service still has not been published.

The currently published timetable (at https://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/ ) shows that Poynton-Piccadilly will lose a train each way at peak times. The 8:15 from Poynton to Manchester and the 17:18 from Manchester to Poynton are no more. There is a proviso on the timetable that says additional services may be added but it is difficult to see where as others have been retimed.

There are some slight changes in times for the rest of the services, the biggest change being the 7:51 to Piccadilly in the morning is now 7:57.

The last train back from Manchester on a weekday will only be 21:43 (previously 23:14).

The only train before 7:30 towards Manchester will be the 5:58.

Hopefully some of the missing services will be added later!

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Re: New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby nowthensithe » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:43 pm

It's arguable that we are called a town yet there are insufficient services to accommodate even the basic of train and bus needs. Yes - I complained to Cheshire East but am fogged off with complete and utter council speak.

turdo170
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Re: New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby turdo170 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:48 pm

The timetable isn't yet finished - final timetable due around April 20th but many of changes mentioned are going ahead and are in the system.

First Train to Manchester should be around 0630 then 0704 , 0730 , 0757,0830.

First trains to Stoke are 0558, 0657,0807.

Last trains back will be similar to now.

They're struggling with pathing at Slade Lane due to the (in my view unneccessary amount of) increase in Airport trains, as many of the planned increases are going ahead. This means that the 1330 is scheduled to miss out Stockport.

What is definite according to a Northern TfGM presentation is we aren't getting our enhanced 7 day a week service until December.

AndrewJ
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Re: New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby AndrewJ » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:28 pm

Yes hopefully those missing services will be filled in. April 20th seems a little late for those of us who need to plan ahead though! Looks like anyone hoping to be able to use the train for the Great Manchester Run on May 20th will be disappointed though.

Missing out Stockport (the main interchange station for the area) seems an odd choice. Why not Bramhall or Cheadle Hulme? I thought that the whole point of the Ordsall Chord was to allow more trains from the north through to the Airport, so I would have thought that they would have checked whether the lines to the Airport could cope with the extra trains before they built the new line! :roll:

Losing a train at peak times into Manchester won't be greeted with much rejoicing. The 7:51 is currently the busiest service of the day, often standing room only even at Poynton. Now presumably most of the people who get the 8:15 will have to get the 7:57 too. Joy.

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Re: New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby tarboat » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:25 pm

It appears that whilst the service frequency on the Buxton line will increase to two trains per hour, they will only call at Middlewood once every two hours. What a rubbish service for those of us who live in Higher Poynton and will have to watch most trains go past without stopping. :roll:

turdo170
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Re: New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby turdo170 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:03 pm

Stockport is the place where trains have the highest chance of delay or delaying other trains and causing performance issues.

The 0757 will no longer come from Stoke as the 0730 will start there instead so that might reduce the loadings a bit of the 0757.

There's still a commitment for the 1737 as a path to Macclesfield only was offered for the original May timetable then removed to be reassessed before the timetable was abandoned in its full form.

mini1
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Re: New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby mini1 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:35 am

Very annoying. My daughter gets the 8.15 to Bramhall for school every morning. The next one is too late. Why has this been removed, would have thought it a popular commuting choice.

turdo170
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Re: New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby turdo170 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:36 pm

They're standardising the timetables so the 0815 as one of a number of anomolies is being removed.

The 0757 is still available.

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Re: New rail timetable from May 20th

Postby turdo170 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:51 pm

Full May timetable is now in the system.

Some additional querks:

0724 Stockport - Macclesfield - All stops to Poynton then fast.
1721 Manchester - Macclesfield - They've opted not to serve Stoke so bad news for Congleton and the CrossCountry still runs via Wilmslow in that hour giving Congleton more peak services on Saturday evenings than Monday - Friday.

Sunday services towards Manchester calling at Heaton Chapel and Levenshume (considering the load factor of the first 2 services especially Post-Summer , not a wise choice)

The 1330 from Poynton still scheduled to miss out Stockport, i'm sure that will cause a few issues.


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